>> okay, thank you. david? >> well, i mean i think you distilled the libertarian position very well. but i don't think that contradicts the battle lines really that we have. i certainly don't and i don't think most gay writes leaders say means you have to have a gay is the best friend. they are talking about political rights, traditional rights from "don't ask don't tell," public employment nondiscrimination, being allowed to work for the federal government instead of being kicked out like they were in the 50s and 60's, so it's just a term of convenience for equal rights, equal legal rights for gay americans.